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what's up faithful readers, this is gotham here. foxes has (stupidly) allowed me to write in with my impressions after visiting duke law this weekend, and so i apologize in advance. my first time blogging, you see. bear with me, yo. this might be long. deal with it.
so, adverseeffect and i traveled down south to the land of sweet tea and confederates for a visit to durham. i arrived at the prestigious la quinta resort on thursday night after a very bumpy ride on independence air. there is a reason you've never heard of them - don't fly with them. ever. it may seem cheap, but walk away.
the festivities started bright and early on friday morning (the coffee and treats in the duke cafe are top-notch, btw). we sat in on a con law class taught by duke law's equivalent of randy johnson, professor erwin chermerinsky. the class was kind of empty - and that was confirmed later by a student. at least we know that thursday nights are a good time at duke.
after this, we checked in and got some serious bling - DUKE LAW t-shirts and a water bottle similarly engraved. pretty nice. dennis shields knows how to impress.
the rest of the day was informative. a pro bono/public interest panel filled with current students was fantastic. an alumni panel that had the obligatory public interest graduate (showing that some students do, in fact, have a soul) was also good, and it included a duke law grad giving us advice via satellite from paris (i am not joking).
i also liked the faculty panel a lot -- they were great, and it is apparently very easy to be a prof's research assistant, something i'm looking forward to.
the career services panel, however, sucked. big time. not only did dean elvin show up wearing suspenders (what up patrick bateman) but he then spewed off lots and lots of numbers about employment. bottom line: if you want to work in NYC, you can go to duke and get a super job. which is, incidentally, what i'd like to do but still - the guy was a little intense and didn't know answers to some questions. and he did a powerpoint presentation. interpret that as you wish.
dean bartlett's speech was kind of boring, to tell you the truth. evan caminker (from michigan) was much better, and he surfs. word.
after some confusion, there was a really nice reception outdoors with the faculty. duke law loses one point, however, for having an alcohol-free event. much easier to pretend that you understand what the profs are saying after a glass of red wine (or 3). they quickly gained one point because in place of booze, they woo-ed me with sweet tea. born and bred in the north, this is my vision of heaven.
that night, different student groups hosted dinners on and off campus. being the WASP that i am, i hit up the asian law students' dinner with adverseeffect and some other (non-asian) friends - it sounded the nicest, and the food was excellent. it did, however, take us 30 minutes to find the restaurant, which was located on the main highway in durham, filled with strip malls and shopping plazas. minus 10 points for duke. in fact, this was one of the dealbreakers for me. did not like durham.
after this, we went to the varsity ale house for a social event, hosted by the duke bar association. met some very cool current students, had a few drinks, and was ogled and stared at by the very colorful durham locals. maybe it was our nametags? don't know. all i know is, i'm not a fan of bars located in the middle of a shopping center parking lot.
i woke up on saturday and, despite certain things, was liking duke. the student forum killed that for me. personally, i felt like the students spent the entire time telling us how to avoid going crazy during the stressful 1L year. this, my friends, is not helpful information and i'll worry about that once i've picked a school. tell me why i should go to duke. they just didnt' sell me on the school. during the michigan weekend, the students were great - they talked about their specific interests and how they pursued those at mich - they all seemed like interesting people. i got the impression that duke students go through the motions for three years before getting a job and making bank. dennis shields gave the farewell speech, but it wasn't much of a speech.
we were sent away with these warm words from dean shields: "you have to put down a deposit by april 30th. even though you might still be waiting on harvard and yale, you might have to commit to duke while you wait." unlike michigan, where every administrator professed their undying love for the school, he seemed kind of bummed out.
verdict: i liked michigan better. the weather in durham was, as foxes told me, "blissful." however, i didn't see myself there, and i've been having dreams about walking around michigan's gorgeous law quad. i think i've made a decision. let's hope foxes makes the same one, eh?
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